Risk Management, Part 4
Friday, May 15, 9:00am PT / 12:00pm ET
Facilitated by Erin Wells, Drew Loso, Chad Lowe, & Sarah Shea
Chat Transcript
Erin Wells
Happy Friday!!!!
Erin Wells
Ask any questions here that you may have!!!
Matthew Gordon
I would love to know what everyone is thinking about face coverings in their spaces (all the time, only for some activities in the space, etc.)
Stefani Plummer
@matthew, personally not a fan but I don't believe it will be my decision. I believe at least the staff will have to wear them.
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
lowe.92@osu.edu
Courtney Berntsen
We are providing PPE equipment to students if they need to provide a spot (but members will also be required to wear them). Otherwise, if students want to wear them, we have the supplies for them. But they don't have to wear them
Dean Smith
Employees are currently required to wear a mask
Karen Howell
If face masks are required.what happens when someone wants to drink water while exercising
Devon Wilde
We have been instructed to have them as "part of the uniform" for student staff, so they are required. They are not required for patrons.
Stefani Plummer
Is anyone who is student fee based only, planning to just open to students FIRST? We allow Faculty/Staff to use, but I am wondering if we are restricting access, what it looks like when F/S are in the facility when students are the ones who pay.
Molly Haduch
This is still in progress, but staff will most likely be required to wear them at University of Michigan across Student Life. Our Divisional Leadership is taking the lead on procurement. I don't know what will be asked of patrons in the rec center. I can't imagine we would want patrons exercising intensely in masks.
Robert Weeks
@Devon Wilde, if they are being considered part of a uniform, is your institution purchasing them for staff?
Davetta Lackey
We will be purchasing masks for students. Patrons will not be required to wear masks
Devon Wilde
At the moment, our institution is not purchasing them, but us as a Rec Sports department are purchasing them for our students. There has been discussion throughout campus of our safety department purchasing them later on... (which would help with budget!)
Hailey Hester
GSU- we have mass purchased for staff already
Julia Neal
UAkron is definitely buying in bulk for across all areas of the university
Hailey Hester
GSU is thinking about temperature checks for staff and patrons
Staci Snyder
at UCLA, we will take guidance and lead from what the university as a whole recommends or requires. However, the city of Los Angeles does require them right now, so whenever we get the green light to open if the city still requires them, I assume we be required to have all our staff have them. Currently however the university is providing them to all essential staff who are making visits while the campus is closed
adrianna del amo
UMaine is only allowing students and members during phase 1 as well
Joey LaNeve
ASU is similar to you Erin
Erica Chandler
For those planning on doing temperature checks, have you found any good products you plan to use?
Rhonda Powers
Northern Arizona will only be serving current members during Phase I
Anna Champion
What if you are open to the community (non-faculty/staff)? Are you still opening to students and/or Fac/Staff first?
Stefani Plummer
Sorry if this has been discussed, but how are people providing care (ventilations during CPR) in this new normal?
Hailey Hester
Temperature devices are sold through McKesson medical about $68 per touchless device
Kristen Alexander
is anyone thinking of a virtual traiing?
Kristen Alexander
maybe a video showing how to enter or the pathway?
Stefani Plummer
@kristen, we most likely will be creating videos that we can use beyond this new normal
Hailey Hester
GSU is looking at having to open the week before real opening to try and phase in sessions for Bag valve mask training and universal program trainings for the fall
Kristen Alexander
@Stefani what school are you?
Molly Haduch
I would love that too please. :) Labrousm@umich.edu
Devon Wilde
Devon.Wilde@tamucc.edu - would be so helpful! Thank you!
James Alexander
jalexander4@luc.edu
Rebecca Harper
add me please rrh1@stmarys-ca.edu
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
mmiller5@swarthmore.edu —— Thanks Erin!
adrianna del amo
adrianna.delamo@maine.edu
Davetta Lackey
dlackey@fau.edu
Danielle Anderson
danderson1@fairfield.edu -- virtual training info would be great
Chris Muller
cmuller@uta.edu
Curtis Sink
csink44@vt.edu
Brenna Lacey
I would welcome additional resources for training students to specifically enforce the social distancing and if you will allow those who claim to be roommates, etc, to be within 6ft of each other or if you’ll be strictly enforcing it with every individual
Erin Sanders
sandersec1@appstate.edu
Kristen Alexander
could you maybe share with me? Kristen2@umbc.edu
Mike Valentine
Please send to mike-valentine@uiowa.edu
Drew Meadows
I would love that also dmeadows@csuniv.edu
Shelly Radtke
please add me too, radtke@gonzaga.edu
Courtney Berntsen
I would love that as well!
Daniel Perdue
daniel.perdue@uncp.edu
Jeff Kingery
jxk1046@case.edu Thanks Erin!
Courtney Berntsen
Courtney,berntsen@ndsu.edu
Easton Henrikson
easton4@pdx.edu
Rhonda Powers
rlp@nau.edu
Staci Snyder
Would love to see that as well Erin, ssnyder@recreation.ucla.edu
Karen McAllister-Kenny
kmcallis@brocku.ca as well please
Wendy Johnson
Erin, i would realy like that too. Wendy.Johnson@usd.edu - Associate Director Wellness Center
Adam Pruett
apruett@fb.com - please send my way too! Thank you!
Karen Howell
howellk@lafayette.edu
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
HI Everyone, could you email Erin at erin.wells@austin.utexas.edu
Erica Chandler
echandler@fsu.edu
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
for the student training document
joshua Deekens
I am developing a return to work training with some Covid specific stuff but most of it is a reminder of things that all staff already know. PPE, blood borne pathogens etc...
Amanda Simmons
alsimmons@vcu.edu Thank you!
Kathryn Dunn
kdunn8@luc.edu
Amy Campbell
We would be interested in receiving the online staff training module campbamy@gvsu.edu thank you!
Jimmy Heiner
jheiner@umaryland.edu - Staff training document please
Julia Neal - UAkron
jneal@uakron.edu
Dustin Stashko
dstashko@ualberta.ca - Thanks so much!
BGSU-Chris Ballard
cballar@bgsu.edu
Stephanie Fung
slfung@ucdavis.edu
Megan Ridley
mrridley@yhc.edu
Mike Dominguez
dominguezm@sonoma.edu
Emily Wujcik
emily.wujcik@slu.edu
Kristen Alexander
Kristen2@umbc.edu
Justin Ellerbe
How are your departments managing space capacity with users? What sort of reservation processes/planning are you all doing to stay within max capacity within each area in your facilities?
Stuart MacIntyre
smacintyre@brocku.ca
Lindsay Wigderson
l_wigder@uncg.edu, thanks!
Mark Ritter
mritter@uscupstate.edu
Raymond Mencio
r-mencio@sacredheart.edu
Stefani Plummer
what about places that are just plum HOT?! Temperature checks can be off. I had to stop by the hospital and had two significantly different temperatures between coming from outside to again inside
Justin Cato
justin.cato@tamuc.edu
Gabor Jerkovits
Please add me as well. gabor.jerkovits@uregina.ca
Tzu-Lin Toner
mohrv@montclair.edu
Julia Neal - UAkron
Stefani
Drew Cantwell
dcantwell@lsu.edu
Julia Neal - UAkron
I thought about that too, we are not hot, but even if you do a pre-workout, your temp is elevated.
Laura Munroe
laura.munroe@utsa.edu
joshua Deekens
https://www.watersafety.com/whats-new for supplies has been great
Jessica Dehn
People could also take Tylenol to lower their temp prior to leaving the house - so our university has directed us not to rely on this
Dean Smith
smithhd@miamoh.dedu
Tzu-Lin Toner
tonert@montclair.edu
Joey LaNeve
ASU has ordered Hepa filters for all of our pocket masks and BVM for all first aid kits. All of our staff are CPRO and have been for the last 15 years
Hailey Hester
HEPA is on AHA
Hailey Hester
on their recommendations
Joey LaNeve
Compressions are still aerosol generating so if you are doing compression only CPR you still want to cover the face with some kind of cloth or mask
Erin Wells
https://www.life-assist.com/products/details/509/hepa-filters/
Melissa Khampha
melissakhampha@boisestate.edu
Megan Ridley
What type of wipes are you all providing for patrons? We have used Performance Wipes in the past, but they must remain wet on the surface for 10 minutes before they kill COVID-19.
Erin Wells
https://www.life-assist.com/products/oxygen-resuscitation/bag-mask-resuscitators/71/
Hailey Hester
https://cpr.heart.org/-/media/cpr-files/resources/covid-19-resources-for-cpr-training/oxygenation-and-ventilation-of-covid-19-patients/ovcovid_mod2_airwymgmt_200401_ed.pdf?la=en&hash=F635CB4126F9A8617ECDA8706E1A8A0D273E36B5
Hailey Hester
Where they talk about HEPA filters AHA
Rachel O'Mara
If you use an N95, we have been told you need a physician evaluation and fit test. Are others getting the same information?
Stefani Plummer
@megan we are working with our custodial team to get a spray that has a shorter dwell time
Hailey Hester
also her eis the publication by 20 Doctors on HEPA: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.120.047463
John Brey
Here is a product that I have researched that might be of great help to you clean your facilities. https://goldshieldusa.com/.
Robert Weeks
At University of Cincinnati, every staff member in our EAP that responds to a code is certified in Red Cross CPR Pro
Kristen Alexander
there is an American Red Cross Mental Health COVID training out there, that we are requiring for all staff. It is free if anyone wants it!
TJ Hill
At Colorado State, all staff that respond in our EAP are CPRO as well
Bob Riddle
At Appalachian State University we train all of our Lifeguards and Facility Supervisors to CPR/AED for the Professional Rescuer, All of our Professional Staff are CPR for the Professional Rescuer Trainers
Amanda Simmons
At VCU, our Facility Operations Attendants have CPR for the Lay Responder, however, we transitioned our Facility Managers last year to CPR Pro.
Lindsay Wigderson
when we transitioned to all staff being CPRO a few years ago, a major selling point was consistency of care across the facility
Daniel Perdue
reservations on the hour.
Daniel Perdue
IM leagues
Matthew Gordon Harvard University
Fusion Reservations is the plan
Rebecca Cegledy
Calculating spaces on the 144 sq ft per person and then taking into account equipment in spaces for capacity numbers. We are looking at either using our Fusion software court reservation system for building capacity registrations for 1 hour 15 minute time slots (no locker room access during phase 1) with 30 minutes in between to get staff reset and cleaning high touch points. Or we will do a first come first serve then one in one out. We have only one main entrance so it is easier for us to control.
Kathryn Dunn
Fusion programs
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
@Rebecca - Does this include your building staff, too?
Laura Munroe
I am one of the Co-Chairs for the NIRSA Work Team for Re-Opening. It would be greatly appreciated if you would send me your institutions opening plans for use by this work group. If your plan is already on the shared Google doc no need to send. Thanks in advance! laura.munroe@utsa.edu
Stephanie Fung
at uc davis we have talked about repurposing the IM scoreboards, to put in bigger spaces like weight room to visually display the number of people in that area at that time. putting one possibly in the front near the front desk as people in the building.
Jessica Dehn
We are looking at reservations but don't have a system. Found this one that has a free option or relatively cheap paid options. https://www.signupgenius.com/
Davetta Lackey
Connect2 to keep track of the capacity and posting the count so the patron can view
Devon Wilde
Laura, is the shared google doc of ideas on NIRSA's website?
Rebecca Cegledy
We are basing capacity on fitness areas only. Our staff would be covered by the hallway and main entry and office space.
Stephanie Fung
24 hour fitness has a similar video too
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
@Devon - [Tuesday 12:23 PM] Lowe, Chad
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fSbAXOVqZYn0wldEGe8OvbBFxxK96xO9uX7fxTuDr4I/preview#
Frances Caron
Fusion allows you to set access times for people based off reservations. Their app is also great if you need to move away from a hand scanner.
Daniel Perdue
excellent idea!
Devon Wilde
Thank you!
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Looking to use Qualtrics for registration
Trey Knight
Looking to use Fusion and there new/upgraded features to inform capacity, publish capacity, reservations, etc. Also looking at the tool in Microsoft 365 called Bookings.
Amanda Simmons
At VCU, we have discussed using the "Program Registration by Schedule" feature for registration time blocks. Discussing doing 1.5 hour time blocks.
Erin Wells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRYrob02zwg&feature=youtu.be&deliveryName=DM56216
Stephanie Fung
https://www.planetfitness.com/club-cleanliness
Rachel O'Mara
UH is looking at using Fusion Group Fitness Check In system as our reservation process for capacity and clearing the facility on the :50
Colin Chambers
For anyone using connect 2: (if you don't do it already) have you considered using the counts to post the live counts on your website?
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
@Colin - Yes, at OSU we plan to use that feature. Working towards making sure the Counts are accurate and adjusting the capacities as well.
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
A big thing I’ve noticed in this 24 Hour Fitness video is they are requiring patrons to wear a mask.
Nyssa Owen
@Rebecca etat does that realistically look like in many spaces? 10-20 people?
Nyssa Owen
What
Hailey Hester
how are people dealing with patrons that say live together that don't need the "6ft rule" and have expectations they will be workout out together due to that? How are you going to handle that?
Chris Muller
At UTA we are doing 25% of the number of cardio pieces and using the same number for the weight area.
Danielle Anderson
Is anyone training staff on cleaning to be OSHA compliant? Hazard Communication Training. I know this varies state to state.
Joe Cassidy
Are your student employees operating the electrostatic sprayers?
Molly Haduch
How frequently are you using the electrostatic sprayers? Daily?
Stephanie Fung
UC Davis had a protexuss sprayer gun before the shut down. we have the backpacks as well, and a few more sprayer guns for the staff to use in their areas. Yes @joe Cassidy, the students are operating.
Stephanie Fung
@molly--they are going through hourly, and the one roamer attendant, they were using it to spray everything
Julia Stulock
What type of PPE is being used with the electrostatic sprayers?
Stephanie Fung
@julia prior to shut down, they didn't need much ppe
Stephanie Fung
we can spray on everything except surfaces you'd ingest (so don't spray food)
Molly Haduch
What is the drying time?
Frances Caron
UC Riverside has the clorox 360 systems and has for over a year. We use them all day long on all items in the facility.
Stephanie Fung
@ molly drying time is 10 minutes
Megan Ridley
What product are you using in your sprayers?
Molly Haduch
thank you thank you
Matthew Gordon Harvard University
We use Oxivir which has a dry time of 5 minutes, and they also make Oxivir 1 which dries in 1 minute. We are trying to procure sprayers still.
Stephanie Fung
@megan, there are tablets that we order to use. after it sprays, it smells lowkey like a pool with the chlorine smell. but you fill the canister up with water, and the tablet is like an alka seltzer tablet so once it fizzes it's good
Stephanie Fung
@sarah, no residue for us at davis so far
Stephanie Fung
too early to tell for rusting
Frances Caron
We have had no issues with the clorox system leaving residue or any rust.
Frances Caron
We also use the clorox system on our black cushions and have no residue or marks from them on those is that gives you some indication of that.
Rebecca Cegledy
@Nysaa Our building layout allows for some of this. For a phase one re-open we anticipate lower usage so our initial lower capacity numbers should work. Then we will look to loosen up as we learn/operate this way for summer ops.
Molly Haduch
@Frances do you use it everywhere? locker rooms, fitness equipment, front desk, etc?
Frances Caron
Yes! Everywhere! They are fantastic and we have had them for a couple of years! We use them on furniture, equipment, kids toys (we have childcare), you name it.
Gregory Reinhardt
Is anyone suspending guests that do not follow cleaning protocol (i.e., each guest must clean equipment after use)? We have been asked to do this, but are looking for other options.
Rebecca Mabile
Utah already has some community pools open for lap swim only.
Joey LaNeve - ASU
city pools and gyms can open in AZ as of this week. We are waiting for University guidance before opening
Ben Burnham
Idaho is allowing pools to open soon. Some cities are not due to financial reasons.
Amanda Simmons
In Virginia, currently only Outdoor pools are allowed to operate. However, it is only for "fitness" related activities (Lap swim or individual Aqua Aerobics).
Nathan Brungardt
we are allowing them to use the public restroom in the facility
Kathryn Dunn
In Illinois you can't open pools without a shower and toilet available
Justin Kern- ASU
ASU is adding outdoor showers to all of our pools
Robert Weeks
In Ohio the announcement was made, but the guidelines the governor said they would have to follow have not been published yet.
Robert Weeks
^For pools and gyms, that is
Rebecca Mabile
As of tomorrow Utah can have rec swim and swim lessons. Governor gave two day notice that we are moving to low risk phase.
Meagan Stachurski
We have talked a lot about virtual training and spacing like Erin said.
Meagan Stachurski
American Red Cross also just released virtual skills for Lifeguarding and CPRO but I haven't reviewed it yet
Joe Cassidy
If your department has a large event during orientation or start of the school year to promote your facilities and programs (i.e., RecFest), with social distancing, what alternatives are you considering to promote campus rec?
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
Meagan do you have that link handy?
adrianna del amo
Can be used if you do not have a life size mannequin for in water rescue skills
Erin Wells
https://www.redcrosslearningcenter.org/s/american-red-cross-covid-19-guidance
Frances Caron
We've been doing virtual in-service since we closed. I have seen a couple facilities currently doing training with their lg's with snorkel mask on (don't necessarily recommend) and bring a person from home to help (another tough one).
Meagan Stachurski
CDC also has specific language excusing 6 feet rule for "gatherings" during emergencies
Kathryn Dunn
@Joe this is small, but during virtual orientation, OLs are asking students to open up social media and follow us on one of our platforms.
We are also using Strava (free app) to create an activity club
Meagan Stachurski
"Anyone rescuing a distressed swimmer, providing first aid, or performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation, with or without an automated external defibrillator."
Chad Lowe-Ohio State
@Joe - all of OSU's orientation is going virtually this year. We are creating a landing web page for all of our materials and also will have a weekly Q & A zoom call for incoming 1st year's.
Jimmy Heiner
Anyone requiring Participants, particularly those doing cardio, to wear a face mask?
Thomas Peters
I am buy them out of my pocket for my staff. Claflin University
Frances Caron
There is a lot of research being done on the cardiac issues happening from those wearing masks while working out so those going that direction I recommend lookign into it.
Thomas Peters
We are recommending that everyone that come to workout have a mask.
Rebecca Mabile
I don't believe we are requiring participants to wear masks but encouraging it. Our employees are required to wear them though
Karen Howell
We are planning to require patrons wear masks while exercising. I am concerned about drinking water.
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Two weeks
Stefani Plummer
i feel like we need another as more are opening...to see what works and doesn't!
Chris Muller
YES.
Amanda Simmons
2 weeks
Dean Smith
yes
joshua Deekens
wearing a mask for cardio is like pool hypoxic training
Stephanie Nielsen
Two weeks
Wendy Johnson
two weeks - yes
Mark Ritter
1 week please
Nathan Brungardt
yes
Rob Patchett (he/him/his)
2 weeks
Ben Burnham
2 weeks
Davetta Lackey
2 weeks
Emily Wujcik
2 weeks! YES!
Devon Wilde
I think this needs to keep happening as we move through our "phases" of reopening together!
Kathryn Dunn
two weeks!
joshua Deekens
the more times we can meet the better!
adrianna del amo
1 week plz
Jared Lindorfer
2 weeks
Trey Knight
2 weeks
Anna Champion
Yes please! So much info!! I'm fine with any week time!
Drew Meadows
Yes one week
Staci Snyder
Yes please
Molly Haduch
yeah 1 or 2 is great thank you all
Rhonda Powers
valuable to keep meeting
Lindsay Wigderson
week and a half :)
Meagan Stachurski
yes please! Have to hop off!@
Hailey Hester
yes thank you
adrianna del amo
thank you!!!
Devon Wilde
Thanks y'all!!
Keith Wenrich
Maybe some discussions about shared used facilities.
John Somers
Thanks all for the great info
Danielle Anderson
Thank you
Molly Haduch
Thank you for hosting!
Gregory Tack
Thank you!!
joshua Deekens
Thanks everyone! stay safe and stay healthy!
Justin Ellerbe
Thank you!!
Adam Pruett
Thank you!
Kathryn Dunn
Thanks for the smike Drww!~
Amy Campbell
Thank you!!
Justin Cato
Thank you all! Great job!