Chat Transcript
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers)
Feel free to post questions in the chat! Include your institution with your question.
Victor Martin
I am interested in helping with outreach.
Aubre Jones
ACCHL - Collegiate Ice Hockey
Dom Sak_YSU
hockey - NCHA?
Aubre Jones
Aubre Jones - George Washington University
Victor Martin
I was told that USA Rugby declared bankruptcy
Dom Sak_YSU
Rugby - National Small College Rugby Organization (NSCRO)
Nora White
Myself and Nora from Spikeball are here on this call so happy to give what insight we can!
Daniel Gardner
Rugby will now be NCRO rather than NSCRO
J. Cole Rinck
They did declare bankruptcy. It will require a restructuring but still exists.
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Fencing - http://www.usacfc.org/ for the national championships
Travis Lankford
Rodeo - NIRA
Victor Martin
Thanks, J.
Lauren Dudziak
NHF for Ice Hockey
Craig Dube
Ice Hockey- Collegiate Hockey Federation (https://www.chfhockey.net/)
Dom Sak_YSU
eSports - there are multiple possible NGBs. TESPA is the one we're affiliated with
Chad Zimmerman
Thank you for posting these! We will comb through the chat and update the list before sending out!
Liz Henry
Can someone post the link to the google in the chat? I came late and missed it.
Victor Martin
Collegiate Star League, NACE
Chad Zimmerman
The Google Form will be shared after this meeting in the NIRSA Connect.
Dom Sak_YSU
barbell/weight lifting, unless I missed it
Liz Henry
thanks
J. Cole Rinck
NCAA initial "Resocialization of Sports" guidelines (http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/core-principles-resocialization-collegiate-sport) and FAQs (http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/core-principles-resocialization-collegiate-sport-frequently-asked-questions)have already been shared
Matthew Kutz
Agreed with what Max said. Most NGBs are not making decisions until they see what their membership clubs are doing as far as Fall classes
Shana Kessler
Question that likely should be included for them is how they are handling refunds and credits for spring seasons that were cancelled this year - especially if those clubs cannot recruit and therefore cannot guarantee a season next year, or if they were sanctioned by their university during spring that may have resulted in them not being able to compete next year.
Raamen Bass
Loyola Marymount University....my university (and others) have been asked to find out if NGBs are willing to add language in their registration (for Fall 2020 and beyond) that includes if schools are unable to participate due to COVID-19 matters, if any funds can be refunded in full. If this can be added to questions, that would GREAT!!!
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
NGB question - Athlete eligibility as well as whether an institution will be affected if they cannot participate due to University policies.
Jacob Crawford
here at High Point University we have not made a formal decision yet. but we have discussed only playing conference schedules, and no out of state travel unless for regionals, nationals or if their conference has them playing out of state opponents. We also are going to try and limit trips to day trips if possible instead of overnight stays.
Kristen Alexander
Ice Hockey league - CHF (Collegiate Hockey Federation)
Daniel Gardner
Possible question that could be on the outreach to NGB'S: "Would your organization engage with University legal counsel offices to review and accept redline changes pursuant to FY21 refunds to your league participation agreement?"
Victor Martin
Google Meeting has recently become free
Marissa Canter
Raamen- I know Dan Gardner at W & M was putting together a google doc of 40+ NGB responses for adding language into contracts regarding COVID this Fall.
Thomas Giles
In the event that we cant meet face to face, we are planning to host our officer training as a canvas course
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
This is directly from the ACHA article “Considerations for Reopening Institutions of
Higher Education in the COVID-19 Era” … “Conduct meetings electronically, even when working on campus. If meetings cannot be conducted
virtually, keep participation to fewer than 10
participants and enforce appropriate physical
distancing and wearing of masks or face coverings.”
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
https://www.acha.org/documents/resources/guidelines/ACHA_Considerations_for_Reopening_IHEs_in_the_COVID-19_Era_May2020.pdf
Thomas Giles
sort of a mix of virtual on your own and online at the same time
Erin Sanders - App State
App State - Are NGB going to be able to function? Or how are they going to address different state guidelines?
Brandon Corley
Brandon Corley - Florida State University -- I moved to Canvas (online class portal) last year and heard great things from our students. They liked that our stuff and their academics were all in one place
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
It’s a great article and there are sections directly related to athletics and recreation.
Jaclyn Gidley
Jaclyn Gidley - Ball State - similar to what Brandon just mentioned, moved online partially in January and will do as much online training as possible
Matt Dunigan - UCR
Doing all virtual zooms for officer trainings that include all of our normal pillars like diversity, hazing, financial etc.
Michael Corder
Michael Corder at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Has anyone started to formulate social distancing guidelines for practices this fall?
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
ACHA article - Page 12 discusses practices and competitions. Great reference point!
Nora White
Will decisions by schools be made sport by sport or one size fits all as different sports have different levels of interaction?
Victor Martin
I have been asked to develop some social distancing policies. We intend to require clubs to adjust their practice formats. I would imagine that we are not going to have any competitions.
Samantha Wary
Central Washington - The students suggested continuing our monthly officer meetings on Zoom. It makes it more flexible if students have difficulties making it to the meeting in person for whatever reason. Our main training in the Fall may be the only in person if we are allowed by the University.
Dom Sak_YSU
NCAA has had discussions about "playing equity." some states are reopening now, some aren't. opened states will likely practice at some point whereas closed states are still holding tight. as it relates to club sports, that point of fairness is a concern
Erin Sanders - App State
App State - hoping to make a sport by sport decision opposed to a program wide yes/no decision
Erik Unger - UNCG
At UNCG we are securing reservations, but we are giving them the caveat that they may not be allowed to use them pending policy clarifications
Colton Scott
At Illinois- Yes, can request but they know nothing will be approved until we know how we will open.
Drew Devore
at Minnesota we are continuing as normal with club practice schedules. The reason is to get out ahead of facility event reservations from other program areas. Then we plan to adjust as needed with university guidelines
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
Our planned deadline to do reservations is later in July so hopeful that we'll have more information/guidelines by then as to what facilities might be available and with what restrictions.
Liz Henry
We are going to shoot for hybrid training in fall...part in person with social distancing and other parameters and part virtual or canvas course if we can. We are starting with facility reopen plan; sports clubs and events will be next. since our University fall plan is a hybrid we are working with that and waiting for NCAA guidelines.
Liz Henry
Ours can request and reserve, but won’t be approved until further details. this is UC San Diego btw
Kristen Alexander
Same at UMBC (University of Maryland Baltimore County)
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Great question, Chad!
Thomas Giles
at FIU (in Miami) the county restrictions are similar to the school which has made securing public space off campus difficult
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
Our clubs do all their contracts with off campus entities during the summer months so that will determine what facilities they can use, based on their contracts.
Matthew Kutz
We are communicating with our off campus sites to let them know we will have direction for if they should schedule practices with our clubs once the university makes a decision on fall semester classes
Drew Devore
This is a unique approach to competition travel restrictions by UT Chattanooga athletics department: "Teams competing within 150 miles of campus will be required to travel to and return from the competition on the same day."
Matt Dunigan - UCR
Yeah we have been having a lot of conversation but depends on what the university is doing in the fall. As of now we are closed so everything is ina holding pattern
Samantha Wary
Central Washington - Equestrian is the only team moving forward with setting up a facility for the Fall because of the contract process.
Matt Dunigan - UCR
@drew will they have to do any health clearance when they return?
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
https://forms.gle/yzYUehGW3b2qUuPk7
Thomas Giles
FIU- All university travel has been cancelled for 20-21, we are still unsure if that includes club travel
Drew Devore
@matt dunigan I have not seen anything related to the health guidelines, but is definitely something I would like to know as well
Landon Wolfe
ALL university travel at FIU?? Geez, hadn't heard that!
Matt Dunigan - UCR
@drew thanks. Yeah it seems as though, that's going to be something huge that professional sports are going to have to decide on.
Jerrell Kelly - WKU
Right now at WKU, we're in the same boat with travel being restricted for the entire fiscal year. We're currently working to gain clarification for student organizations in general. The restriction for the fiscal year is on funds for travel rather than on a complete ban.
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
At TCU Full time staff travel has been cancelled but no decisions yet that affect how students travel. I'm sure that will come.
Matt Dunigan - UCR
Or being sponsorships that help to travel
Samantha Wary
Central Washington - I am currently working with the Coordinator of Student Organizations on our club travel policy for the University reopening. We hope to allow travel with safety precautions in place including masks, thermometers, etc.
Matt Dunigan - UCR
@Thomas is that for the entire state? or just for FIU?
Erik Unger - UNCG
We are on a travel ban for all professional/GAs for the full year. No final decision has been made on student orgs yet
Landon Wolfe
Not to get too opinionated but how in the world does banning staff/faculty staff this far in advance of the year make any sense right now?
Drew Devore
So a question that we have posed here at Minnesota. Most club sports work under a subset of them being a student org. Do you expect students/clubs to challenge our potential restrictions guidelines if student orgs/actiivties are more lenient in their guidance?
Brandon Corley
@Matt it is not state wide. We are still waiting for a decision at FSU
Thomas Giles
@Matt just FIU at the moment
Matt Dunigan - UCR
Thank you @brandon & @thomas
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
@Drew - I think it’s incredibly important to make sure that there is a unified front between Student Activities/Recreation related to sport clubs
Jared Cox
is there a place where we can document what each university is doing for the fall? Travel, competition, practices, etc
Daniel Gardner
W&M ban on travel is health related
Meg Tully
@Drew - I think at Berkeley we'd have some serious push back from our students - We'll definitely be working with students orgs on policy rollout
Nora White
@jared that would be great!
Jerrell Kelly - WKU
@Landon, I think a lot of those bans have everything to do with funding and very little to do with whether the travel is allowed. So like for us at WKU, if I want to travel to a conference, I still can, but all funds for it would have to come out of pocket.
Samantha Wary
@Drew - I am working with my counterpart in student orgs to create the travel policy. This prevents any unfair policies from being created.
Drew Devore
@jared https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/my-drive
Drew Devore
We have created a NIRSA Comp Sports Information hub. In that hub is a covid folder you can add your specific schools guidelines
Michael Hermer - Queen's University (Canada)
Queen's University (Canada) - Unffotunately I have to leave. Great zoom call and thanks to all for the great discussion and topics. Stay Well
Victor Martin - SIU Carbondale
Badminton would be treated differently from Rugby or Soccer
Landon Wolfe
Gotcha @Jerrell - guessing a blanket ban policy might be easier for an administration to roll out rather than going to the hassle of waiting and making a more informed decision
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
At Cal Poly, I ranked my teams in terms of contact in preparation for a hybrid practice model
Matt Dunigan - UCR
We are doing both. Giving them an opportunity to speak their minds about what they will need to be successful within the some guidelines
Matt Dunigan - UCR
We also are ranking the teams w/ amount of risk w/ practices, whether they are inside or outside
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
@Sarah Hawkins - Are you able to share an example of the ranking?
Erin Sanders - App State
Anyone have COVID risk assessment for teams?
Victor Martin - SIU Carbondale
We haven’t determined any sport specific policies, but our large team sports will be limited. Working with them to develop an acceptable practice format would be best.
Landon Wolfe
I don't see it as beneficial to pull every single club into discussions right now if we have no idea what our university policy will be
Erik Unger - UNCG
We are waiting for clarification on policies. I have started an informal list of ranking of risks that I will work with our Risk Mgt Committee on what we are allowing for the fall
Matt Dunigan - UCR
@erin there is one the link that drew gave
Landon Wolfe
and yes, obviously plan behind the scenes, just don't see a need to alarm the students quite yet
Erin Sanders - App State
@Matt - thanks!
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
The students at TCU are mostly waiting to see what the administration rolls out as guidelines and policies. When they see those, they may then start asking questions or challenging but for the most part are compliant to University rules/regs.
Tom Vitucci
so wearing gloves to prevent contamination seems reasonable?
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
@Tom - I think that really depends on the sport.
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Is anyone consulting with their student health services to get their recommendation for physical activity while wearing a mask? What are the risks associated with this?
Michelle Mirpuri
Thank you, Michael, I think it is important to start thinking outside of the box to justify our positions, if clubs are not allowed to practice or compete.
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
We are enforcing 10 people per meeting/practice for Fall
Liz Henry
UC San Diego - Mainly behind the scenes and with Athletics to align with NCAA sports. we are collecting info from officers on what they would be willing to do in the fall under social distancing guidelines and in order to create some sense of community in the hybrid fall format.
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
Nora - thank you for sharing the NGB side! We appreciate hearing from you and we agree completely!
Michael Przydzial (GVSU)
I appreciate it, Michelle. We are trying to be realistic with our expectations that this won't disappear by September. There is such a variance on the level of support that rec departments can provide to their club sports, so it is tough to assume that we can match the level of oversight that Athletics departments are able to provide to teams.
Dom Sak_YSU
contact sports are going to be tough to troubleshoot
Matthew Kutz
Is anyone concerned about equity concerns from clubs if we allow some clubs to practice while others cannot?
Victor Martin - SIU Carbondale
I agree that most sports will not be feasible.
Daniel Gardner
Spot on Aubre. MIss ya boss!
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
Is anyone that is addressing sport club practices/competitions are you also addressing the issue of spectators similar to how NCAA or pro sports may play but without spectators?
Samantha Wary
@Matthew - Equity is a big concern for me. I am trying to see what I can do to provide the best experience across the board.
Landon Wolfe
I think most Sport Club activities hinge on Res Halls/Dining. If those are open and functioning on your campus then I don't think there's much of a difference in our clubs competing.
Matt Dunigan - UCR
@Samantha RT
Nora White
Thats great Sarah! We have been hosting Zoom Meetings with our Club Leaders and players just to chat, share resources, create new relationships!
Raamen Bass
@Sarah Hawkins....I would love to see the challenge calendar you created.
Jaclyn Gidley
Same ^^
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Okay, if our IHE (institutions of higher education) do reopen for the fall, would you only limit sport clubs participation to those students who reside on campus since those who live off campus have a higher chance of coming into contact with someone who might have COVID-19?
Mario Rios
My biggest fear is Athletics can have their athletes in a "bubble" and protect them in their own environment (practice, study, classes, travel, compete, live in residence halls; all together). Sport Clubs would have no such "bubble" to protect students.
Drew Devore
@sarah I like the non-blanket approach to how you are handling your clubs since none of them are the same
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
Please email me at shawki06@calpoly.edu if you’d like a copy of my sport ranking and/or my virtual challenge calendar. Or send me your email address as a private chat and I’ll email them to you
Thomas Giles
@Mario true!
Erik Unger - UNCG
@Max I cannot see us limiting activities to residential students versus off-campus students
Craig Dube
Keeping in mind with all competitions and NGBs, what are the referee, official, umpire associations plans....
Erik Unger - UNCG
@Max it will come down to the simple argument of fees
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
GREAT THOUGHT, SARAH! I think it’s time for the NGBs to step up to the plate and provide a service.
Liz Henry
UC San Diego is putting a lot of time into creating mentor ship and advice opportunities that are club specific with their alum.
Shawn Dean
It is great hearing all the ways we can engage our sport club participants in the event we cannot hold the sport club program. Any there other ideas?
Dom Sak_YSU
I would suggest everyone to revisit their department/program area's mission statements and core values. from there, you would be able to discern the fundamental components of your programs, as well as restructure what your programs would look like virtually. "if we can't compete, what can we do?"
Jacob Crawford
for those of us that have a Esports facility. What are you doing with that
Austin Sanderson
@Jacob Crawford: We are alternating every machine
Jacob Crawford
we have 24 computers and our room is full 95% of the time, so we have discussed potentially taking out half the computers and adding some kind of barrier around the ones that stay.
Jacob Crawford
thanks @austin
Meg Tully
@Liz - clutch idea :)
Victor Martin - SIU Carbondale
Our Esports facility is managed by the Student Center. I would imagine that they will limit the number of users. The DDR Pads may by limited in their use.
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
I don
Samantha Wary
Central Washington - Our Men's Volleyball team have reached out to different level of players to have Zoom conversations. A lot of topics have included personal journeys, personal skill practices, etc. Here is a youtube video of the meeting they had yesterday with one of the Team USA players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MzpSDbmrI&feature=youtu.be
Nora White
If any schools have Spikeball/Roundnet clubs or intramurals on campus that have students who would like to get involved in our “virtual” community at this time please send an email to nora@spikeball.com!
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
We don't know what some of this looks like until our facilities can reopen.
Robb Bolton
Our Esports program will require students to bring their own headset, mouse and keyboard in the Fall
Liz Henry
More on community...we are using Esports to create community and competition between club teams and will continue to do that if they are not able to compete at all in the fall.
Jaclyn Gidley
Nora - I’d love info for Intramural Spikeball at Ball State jlgidley@bsu.edu
Chris Sato
University plans on rolling out COVID online training for all staff and I believe students
Landon Wolfe
Probably like everything else, better safe than sorry and add another waiver I'm guessing. Doesn't necessarily mean it's legally necessary.
Michael Przydzial (GVSU)
Good resource for everyone from the ACHA on re-opening: https://www.acha.org/documents/resources/guidelines/ACHA_Considerations_for_Reopening_IHEs_in_the_COVID-19_Era_May2020.pdf
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Yes!!! Great suggestion, Wendy!
Chad Zimmerman
Chronicle LINK:
Chad Zimmerman
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Here-s-a-List-of-Colleges-/248626?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_1190312&cid=at&source=ams&sourceId=4901435&fbclid=IwAR1HDzE3SnnaKWGOuy2RelxxovWB2qCpQQkmkoigMrs_Q03PV8FYM2PIlFo
Chad Zimmerman
shoot, link too long
Chad Zimmerman
NACA: https://www.naca.org/BLOG/Pages/thinking-ahead-considerations-fall-programming-5-7-2020.aspx
Mary Ellen Milam - TCU
There is a document put out by CSI on the NIRSA Connect site under one of the discussions that is a facility reopening guide. One of the recommendations in that guideline is having a separate waiver regarding COVID. But, I will have to check with Risk Management on campus before implementing anything like that.
Sarah Hawkins (she/her/hers) - Cal Poly
https://forms.gle/yzYUehGW3b2qUuPk7
Michelle Mirpuri
At Tulane University we are putting together a member Code of Conduct related to COVID-19, rather than a wavier.
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
ACHA article — Read through the whole thing
Samantha Wary
West Coast Soccer Association - NGB
Max, Swarthmore College (he/him)
Great job, Chad, Sarah, and Wendy!
Erin Sanders - App State
Thanks facilitators! Great job!
Aubre Jones
Thank you. Hope we can do this again in a few weeks
Thomas Giles
Thank you for hosting!
Nora White
Thanks all!
Raamen Bass
great job. thanks for putting this together.
Daniel Gardner
thank you all!
Drew Devore
If anyone would like access to the NIRSA Comp Sports hub just let me know: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/folders/0AEwjsSoqCmSDUk9PVA
Zach Gilbert
Fun lunch chat. Be safe and donate to UNCW sport clubs.
Michelle Mirpuri
Thank you!
Shaneisha Weir
thanks