if available, we want to have extra staff through the day that will be whiling down the equipment available
Yep...availability of staff...smaller school, smaller staffing
Currently trying to figure out how long we need to rebuild a staff once we determine we can or will open
Reduced number of student employees available to work based on the fact that many pf them have returned to their home state.
not overstaffing areas
00:37:03Schafaris Turner- SJSU
Does anyone have recommendations on where they ordered their PPE materials?
some on the call yesterday used IMleagues for those sign ups for folks working out
00:38:12Jeremy C - KU
Fusion is looking pretty good for time slots
00:39:26Mary Rose McGinn
For those that use Connect2, I learned it has a capability to post live building counts online. Not a means of controlling capacities, but may help people think critically about coming into the building or not
00:39:36Stephanie Fung UC Davis
how do you mitigate risk, for weight room spaces, since that could include spotters which would break social distancing guiidelines? what about those spaces that are frequently popular---even though there's 100 people in the facility--they could all be in a concentrated area
Agree about Connect2
00:40:00Max, Swarthmore College
This is my plan phasing in different users of the facility:
here is the Fusion Video on how to take reservations for facility access http://videolibrary.innosoftfusion.com/watch/cYfvbJBZ2Z
00:40:18Max, Swarthmore College
Only students to start
No guest passes
Then Transition to faculty and staff
No guest passes
Then Transition to dependents
No guest passes
Then Transition to alumni
No guest passes
Then Transition to permitting guest passes
Qualtrics survey also has a quota function that a survey could be created if your university has access to that
thoughts on spotting policy in weight room?
@maryrose ^^^ we have the set up on connect2 on our website for live courts at CU. Looking at making it easier to access for patrons who do not know it being on our website
MityLite.com for protective shields for employees
00:41:17Max, Swarthmore College
@Michael - When I do reopen, I will not be permitting spotting or the usage of free weights/benches/racks
00:41:18Jeremy C - KU
@Max - How does that impact those paid memberships?
00:41:18Mary Catherine Martinez
@Michael - I have listened in on several calls and some folks were going to remove that type of equipment for the time being.
@ Nebraska we are receiving cloth sewn masks from our state Penitentiary
00:41:31Max, Swarthmore College
@Jeremy - I don’t have paid memberships.
00:41:56Stephanie Fung UC Davis
lots of shops, businesses, etc do not allow reusable bags in their stores....thinking about this with patrons bringing in their own equipment since many of us potentially will be eliminating equipment rentals temporarily....thoughts on patrons' bringing in their own equipment?
@Michaelmontgomery we will not offer spotting.
people are free to use it if they are with a work out partner but some of that will have to be self regulated
@Blake Thanks. Just wondering b/c even partners are then within distancing guidelines
info for pools re transmission in the wqater
Does anybody have ideas to move to contactless scan in for access control? We normally swipe in patrons using their university IDs and CSI software
00:43:59Ken - Cal State Fullerton
We are utilizing FusionGo barcode scanning for access
@Michael you can't police everything.
I think education is a key piece.
We are discussing having a brief "Hi how are you here are our protocols right now" upon scanning in.
00:44:17Stephanie Fung UC Davis
@melissa, we moved the swipers so that each patron can swipe their own card and our attendants will watch the screen. Same as Ken^ we are moving towards the app for barcode scanning too
What about using some sensors
with some schools that help figure out real time occupancy and makes it available to staff and students, alums etc ( they can time themselves based on new capacity). For all the open areas that can’t be reserved. And what areas are closed etc.
Fusion Go also has capacity for entrance and exiting scanning
Yes moving our card swipes for patron use
we have barcode scanners here at UTA.
its through Fusion
00:46:07Ken - Cal State Fullerton
WE currently use FusionGo for entrance, but are going to transition for exits as well
That's what we did as well.
We currently are using finger vein scanners through Rec Trac at our turnstiles and we are looking at Magswipe readers for those. We also have individuals scanning their own id’s at the actual front desk
When the timing is right, I'm hoping we can discuss one-use wipes vs. sanitizer spray bottles and re-usable towels.
Fsuion has audio options that can alert staff to verified patrons
Also, patrons wearing masks?
00:48:13Mary Catherine Martinez
If you have Fusion already controlling hardware/readers, you can *fairly* easily swap out with another type of hardware. We can definitely have a call for your specific situation to go over any changes you might need before opening (say switching from HK2s to barcode or swipers)
My building at Case has had people tap their cards on a scanner on the desk and then show the ID to the desk officer.
Masks are going to be highly dependent on state/municipal policies
00:48:47Max, Swarthmore College
The guidelines to open in Wyoming were shared in the associate's director roundtable earlier today.
It prohibits any activity that requires people to get too close, and specifically named weight lifting that requires spotters:
temple university we don’t plan on opening locker rooms
@Courtney we currently use Bio readers with REcTrac as well.
Moving towards RFID (prior to this).
Bio readers are on the chopping block but a sense on letting people self select and then having a disinfectant procedure.
We have a motorized gate for accessible entry. Once Fusion verifies a membership opens gate automatically. We then have two turnstiles that unlock when verified by Fusion with card reader, but you have to physically move the turnstiles. Traditional turnstile
We've briefly discussed closing the locker rooms completely, keeping only the restrooms open, or even staffing our locker rooms but I don't really see that happening
we have discussed closing locker rooms and not allowing acces to showers or changing areas will impact patrons who need those if they are working and going to work after their workout.
00:50:54Max, Swarthmore College
Putting up a barrier for the shower
Andy at UBC, we are considering opening locker rooms in a phase two of opening.
The pools are the main reason for going to the Aquatic Centre,
Barriers, signage and staffing
turn the water off to the showers
We’re in the same boat, only bathrooms are in the locker rooms so we would have to create a barrier.
00:51:20Schafaris Turner- SJSU
At SJSU, we've dicussed phases so 1) locker rooms closed, 2) only toilets and sinks but no showers and no longers, 3) only rental lockers but no day use, 4) back to normal. We're also discusing a cap on how many people can be in the locker room at one time and how to manage that
if you aren’t allowing people to shower, are you not letting people use the pool? Most pools require rinsing?
00:51:31Schafaris Turner- SJSU
Use of unisex single person locker rooms can be used for showering before using the pool, but would need to be cleaned after each use
@Erin, did Gov. Abbott's Strike Force put out language about gyms/fitness centers yet? I checked this am, but haven't seen anything yet.
At some point can we discuss what everyone else is doing regarding towel service and equipment checkout (such as daily use lockers, weight belts, etc)?
so far no equipment checkout
is everyone defaulting to governmental guidelines?
is anyone thinking of not allowing things governments say are ok??
@ian I have not seen anything yet. I found Alaska and North Dakota guidlines
00:53:05Max, Swarthmore College
Hi all - If anyone has questions for how a small college is going to be returning to operations, eventually, feel free to email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
@Ian, i don’t think so.
i think he has only released stuff for phase 1
Not permitting lendable equipment
00:53:13Max, Swarthmore College
I’m heading to a department meeting. Be well!
00:53:34Dustin Soderman - ASU
Combo of both but wipes are cleaner
Does anyone have gym wipes that are effective against COVID-19? Ours currently do not
00:53:40Stephanie Fung UC Davis
thoughts on patrons bringing in their own equipment (weight belts, bands, etc), since they would contact on communal spaces? it's a similar thought as stores here that won't allow reusable bags in the stores
00:53:48Ross Rod - UT Austin
Texas is moving away from communal cardio towels
00:54:06Dustin Soderman - ASU
Sourcing wipes is very difficult
Zogics Anti-Bacterial wipes have shown to be effective against Coronaviruses but they are sold out of everything
At Logan University in St. Louis, we were thinking of patrons using Virex II and paper towels while our staff used a bleach solution. Anyone else considering bleach?
Oklahoma is attempting to get a Clorox 360 system for bleach use as a room wide disinfectant
00:55:08Nick Lampert - CU Boulder
Re-Juv-a-nal disinfects against COVID but it takes 10 minutes to do the work. We have spray bottles but are looking to get wipes (if possible).
we ordered before we closed and were told 6-8 weeks for delivery but got eight cases about 10 days after order. Haven't checked in with delay for new orders.
ERC Wipes out of North Dakota but might not have any for right now
Is anyone considering requiring to people bring their own spray bottle, and providing a dispenser of cleaning solution.. like water bottle filling stations but for spray cleaner?
McMaster used a Dynaspray mister and Ultralyte disinfectant for large area disinfecting
@Bruce you are breaking up really bad.
cant make out
what youre saying
still not working
I'll talk in chat
@Bruce, can you put it in the comments?
Virex II 256
Oklahoma has been using Virex II 256 for a while
Has anyone used Wysiwash for large-scale aquatic center disinfection?
We are using washcloths from from Grainger so it's a greener option than paper towels
We are assigning student workers their own spray bottle for cleaning and Zogics wipes for patrons.
use it all the time
00:58:47Ken - Cal State Fullerton
WE are looking at purchasing
Yes, we ordered a Clorox 360 today. Probably be about 60 days before we get one though.
$7000 was the price tag I was told on that one
00:59:03Stephanie Fung UC Davis
we are using protexus 360
sprayer guns and backpack sprayers to clean our facility and disinfect equipments
Its like using a backyard fogger
00:59:14Stephanie Fung UC Davis
we ordered them before the closure happened
Yes! the Clorox 360 sounds great! They are back order several months for any vendor and knock offs I have researched right now.
clorox 360 is used at CWRU but it is currently on a 5 month wait, cost is about $4-5,000 per unit
we have been using them for over a year...love them
we are planning to use Vital Oxide mister
will those Clorox sprayers be okay with electronic consoles on cardio machines?
Seems worth the cost, but the wait might be an issue right now..
01:00:06andy miller - UBC
While Chlorine is a great disinfectant make sure your bare metal parts are well oiled or you could end up with corrosion problems
Looks like Wysiwash is an anti-bacterial/anti-viral cleaner that is marketed for animal kennels, according to their website, which is why most of us haven't heard of it.
Yes, the Clorox 360 is safe if sprayed from outside a certain distance of electronics. I think it's like 2 feet or so
AS we were closing our facilities folks used Protexus another hydrostatic mister.
UCLA Rec- we are considering to sell personal equipment so people can bring in their own personal items (yoga straps, blocks, bands) We also hope to make a little revenue.
Any concerns about people using the facility's stability balls, slam balls and mats?
we already have a no outside equipment policy. that part that is difficult is user straps, belts, and other weight lifting equipment.
We also understand there will be a lot of people still wanting to workout at home.
@Michael, no outside equipment policy, is that specific to fitness centre or even in gymnasiums?
This is Kelley from NIRSA HQ. It's great to hear so many recommendations from the NIRSA fam! Here are some NIRSA associate members who offer cleaning-related products to consider: https://www.nirsa.org/wcm/wcm/BG/BG_Search.aspx?WebsiteKey=75dea602-e911-478d-b061-91876fecc73d&Category=LAUNDRY_TOWELS
we talked about that this morning- TBD on own equipment. But if what they're bringing in equipment that is "not clean or infected" they probably are too
01:10:53Courtney Copp-University of Arizona
Yes, we are looking at a couple of hours to clean during the day, but nothing finalized.
No closure in the middle of the day.
Texas A&M will close mid-day to do a cleaning shift
01:11:19Chelsea Randolph - Texas A&M
I believe we are looking to do a mid-day close to clean and sanitize
Since we’re facing budget cuts on top of needing to staff up more than usual for cleaning, we’re looking at doing a morning, midday, and evening hours type setup.
6 am to noon, cleaning,
and 1:15 pm to 7:30 pm
Our reduced hours with be with budget cuts at least for now..
A&M will close 2-5pm - cleaning handrails, counters, furniture, door handles, strength and conditioning equipment, etc
reduced hours probably with some cleaning breaks but nothing official yet
01:13:06Nick Lampert - CU Boulder
We ran few scenarios on short hours with no break to clean and a break in the day for a cleaning with all hands on deck. No final decision made at the moment.
Reflecting what T.J. stated
on topic of hours- we are also considering using one satellite facility for senior/retiree/immunocompromised individuals only use
masks for patrons and cardio spacing
How does everyone expect that their staffing models will change for the hours you are open? For example, facilities are cutting hours and really have to for budget purposes. But are you staffing more employees while you are open than previously you did before?
01:15:42Mary Rose McGinn
my grocery store has been using painters tape making arrows and such
I have seen lots of floor markings, stickers, or tape.
Most see and adhere to that
01:17:49Nick Lampert - CU Boulder
^^Ross thanks this is great
I've heard that a mask is not efficient if you can blow out a candle with it, so I feel like that would limit airflow and breathing
01:18:12Ross Rod - UT Austin
If you are closing off equipment, how do you plan to “close” down your equipment? Are you doing covers? Moving them? Caution Tape?
We are putting signs on our equipment
What are people doing about open recreation play, specifically outdoor play spaces (basketball courts, tennis, ect)?
I was on a call this morning Arkansas is 12 feet
CDC has a 12 to 20 for exercising but I think they were looking at outdoor,
01:20:30Stuart MacIntyre - Brock University
We at Brock University have been dealing with an expansion of our Weight Room since last May. We have had to use signage and such for detour with closures. At the beginning we used extra staff to educate and assist at the beginning and found it useful. Something I would suggest when re opening and having signs to have extra staff and just educate about social distance when people enter and remind them to watch for signage
we are thinking cloth masks. My concern if we rely on purchased one time masks, is that if we spike or have a second outbreak, those will quickly be unavailable
@Ross…we’ve talked about spreading equipment out into racquetball courts, gyms, etc. so we don’t have to worry about someone having to avoid a specific piece
This brings up the topic of increasing distancing for cardio participants
01:21:49Ross Rod - UT Austin
@Ross…we figured it’d be too difficult to close specific pieces and our staff would just be fighting the battle of getting people off those pieces
Ole Miss uses them for CPR courses - yes there are plenty out their.
Repost: How does everyone expect that their staffing models will change for the hours you are open? For example, facilities are cutting hours and really have to for budget purposes. But are you staffing more employees while you are open than previously you did before?
How are you all planning to keep your wood floors clean? Dance, racquet, squash?
Hi Everyone, in addition to dorms, our Recreation Center at Sonoma State U. in Northern California, has entered in an agreement to be host facility for Covid positive patients for at least 90 days and we will be closed until further notice.
If there is anyone on the call who may be going through a similar situation, I'd love to connect to share thoughts and support.
Be safe everyone.
concerns about responding to emergencies?
at UC Berkeley they are currently using our Fieldhouse for DSP study space since it is the largest space on campus
That is actually great for us. We teach the BVM and have several of them.
Ole Miss student staff has the one way valve masks in all our staff fanny paks
Remember that CPR for Professional Rescuer also has blended learning, which can help get a lot more training and information out, limiting doing full CPR courses
Has anyone had to rework their membership waivers?
^ Good question @Mark
For future discussion:
allowing events on any scale? various types?
Maybe covered in risk call the other day?
Anyone looking to ADD on waivers to include the risk of Covid -19?
I watched a Facebook Live post yesterday by Star Guard Elite- their medical director recommends temperature screenings before entrance into the facility & as long as there are no elevations in temperature and can be admitted into the facility, the care we provide should not change (assuming you are using masks with 1 way valves at a minimum), but would recommend use of BVM if available.
01:28:07Schafaris Turner- SJSU
We're looking at adding COVID-19 to our waivers but I'm not sure about the wording of it yet.
I've got to run to a meeting with our lifeguards. Thank y'all for hosting, and if possible, I would like to continue these discussions in the future! Stay safe, all!!
UMN checked in with
our General Counsel and our current waiver is still adequate
all patrons need to be part of the process and part of this entire re-opening means they are assuming a cettain level of risk if they choose to come and use the facility. THat cannot be understated
Thanks for hosting Jess!!
01:30:25Courtney Copp-University of Arizona
Thank you all! This was great!
Thank you all!!!
Thank you all!
Very informative, thank you!
Thank you! Very helpful information
01:30:54Nick Lampert - CU Boulder
01:30:55Sabrina Martinez UTRGV
Thanks everyone, great info to take back to my director! Stay safe :)
Thanks so much!
Thanks everyone, good feedback and lots to consider!
thanks everyone! have a good weekend.
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