@Robin - daycare hours/closures, no contact with people outside, really. I normally stay home all week and go do things during the rest of my time, but we can't even play at the playground with my 4.5 year old. It's normally fairly isolating to work from home, but the social aspect is manageable the rest of the time. But that has been very hard these days.
00:39:07Aracelis (Ary) Servedio
Gyms open May 4th in AR. University of Central AR is till closed.
Iowa is still on the climb for cases... but we are opening 3/4 of the state. Athletic spaces are closed still.
In Florida, we are opening parks, golf courses, and the like. However, our university may not open our gym until students come back in August.
anyone planning to open *outdoor* spaces only (track, tennis, pools)...while leaving indoor spaces closed? Joe J / state of california
At MSU Denver, Campus Recreation will not open until at least the fall semester. A decision will be coming about fall semester within the next 2 weeks.
ny in place til May 15 as of now
UVA: State of Virginia still on stay at home order, no gyms open
At Utah State - we have kept outdoor spaces open. We are moving to a “orange” guidelines so we are returning to work on a staggered schedule to prepare for re-opening - we are opening our rental shop
We have considered removing equipment off of the fitness floor (not sure where we will put it??) to meet spacing guidelines for regulations.
RJ at U of Manitoba, Canada, Provincially outdoor spaces can open as of Monday May 4, but at our University we are still closed, so opening of Tenis courts, turfs, track, etc., we are not yet sure.
We are looking to open park just off campus with social distancing in place and enforced - USF Tampa
You also have to consider fans that are used in the fitness areas as well as the HVAC system. Even at 13ft those systems alone eliminate the benefit of preventative actions.
In California the order has been extended through the end of May, so we won’t be opening any of our facilities, indoor or outdoor, until June at the earliest.
Virginia hiring freeze was interpreted to apply to student hiring as well
We have been particularly attentive to state guidelines, the gyms can open, but NO team sports and no pool/showers/sauna/spa
California has included gyms in stage 3 of the re-open plan. Stage 3 is expected to be “months” away, not weeks.
In regards to outdoors, what have people been doing about lifeguards and pool operations for when you reopen your outdoor facilities? Do lifeguards have to wear masks, or is that dangerous in case a save needs to occur? What about those swimming? Do they need to remain 6 ft away from others swimming?
@ Chris we are moving equipment to our basketball courts too
Marc @ Bonobo. Think about current practices in grocery stores - they state guidelines but do not enforce. Rec centres cannot be enforcers - it is impossible, there wont be enough staff, training, etc to enforce this. We canonly put the guidelines in place and educate, and facilitate the space.
I've heard push back on placing equipment on hardwood due to the weight and potential damage to the floor, even with protection (ie carpet) Has anyone addressed this concern? Janet FIU (Miami, FL)
GA is allowing gyms to open (Executive Order: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6876872-04-23-20-02.html) but we are remaining closed at Emory along with campus operating with a remote/WFH requirement.
With regards to budgets, how many universities are supporting student staff and for how long?
We are discussing that pro staff may be working the building for a bit as new hires, including students requires presidential approval
@Tiffany McChesney, in some other roundtables, I've attended, a few places are saying they would need to have guards wear gloves and masks while in the chair, but remove the mask in the case of a rescue. There's no way to make rescue without getting into that 6ft range.
UNC is supporting student staff through 5/8
At MSU Denver we are still paying student staff for spring 2020 but that will end for the summer with the exception of a few students.
Does anyone run Summer day-camps on their campus? Are those still being considered aside from the closures of regular operation?
Also - all the efforts we put forth is going to go towards an exclusive few - we will be limiting space, equipment and programs which will only service those that are already integrated into our programs and services - it will build barriers to new participants and we will be putting more resources to smaller numbers of participants.
Regarding Aquatics, J Ellis has some great protocols to follow: https://jellis.com/news/2020/aquatic-industry-update-april-29
Some states are also establishing a difference between opening a gym and a pool. Tennessee's guidelines for opening gyms specifically says that pools, hot tubs and saunas are to stay closed.
We compensated ONLY our student employees (no temps) the average of their last three pay periods before we went virtual. This only extends until tomorrow, though.
@bob Wyoming too
University of Maryland is not paying students unless we have telework opportunities for them.
UT Arlington has developed "alternative work plans" for students who "opt in" to the program through 5/31.
Supporting student staff through today which is the end of spring semester at UWF.
@RJ Skinner Our youth summer camps are shut down with the exception of 1 or 2 that are developing a virtual camp.
All summer athletic and recreational camps at Stanford University have been cancelled.
CDC will come out with guidelines regarding pool on May 15, 2020
00:51:11MC Martinez - Innosoft
@Robin - is that cancellation applying to the whole Bay Area or specifically at Stanford for now?
Texas State is looking to continuing virtual opportunities as part of regular line up of offerings. Feedback has been super positive with this angle. We are remaining closed through our SS 1 regardless of state policy change.
Stanford University has allowed some student and part time staff to work on an exceptional basis, but 90 to 95% have been informed that we cannot employ them during the shelter in place order.
MC, the cancellation of camps is specific to Stanford, other institutions may choose to hold camps, Stanford will not this summer.
UNC Asheville, we are wondering the same concern about lifeguards for any close contact with any FA need that occurs once we do reopen.
For camps, can we really expect kids to stay 6 feet away from one another in the pool?
@Tiffany, we are not looking at camp activities in the pool, to my knowledge, for that reason
^ That's one of the reasons we wanted to keep our leisure pool and hot tub closed, even if we are to open this summer.
We are still hiring. If you know of anyone who wants to be a full-time lifeguard please encourage them to apply asap at https://jobs.grinnell.edu/hr/postings/3298.
Vicki is correct! Single guard can't work, epically indoor. Aside from the most important issues facing pools/aquatics with a single guard(safety issues), who is cleaning surfaces? who is assisting patrons? etc.
My question is for Arizona schools and Purdue, where Admin has already said they will be open for the Fall. Has this adjusted their planning for staffing and distancing.
Univ. of Maryland is continuing virtual opportunities as we are not opening for the rest of Spring term or the SS1 (July 13th is end SS1). Guidance from state for phased reopening is pretty conservative and Maryland is not close to entering Phase 1 which will include mostly outdoor opportunities (golf, tennis, hiking trails, etc.)
Northwest WY is open to the community, we are looking at having students, employees, and community members use a reservations tool because we are limited to only 9 people in the building.
yes Vicki at JMU we have had fence jumpers
FIU Miami did the same. Social media was quick to spur this response.
2 things I’m thinking about. First, that we have to figure out whatever we do will be sustainable and not a hot fix or cost even more money to provide fewer experiences to fewer people. Second, that just like the states, we have to consider a phased approach and the possibility that we will move up and down along that spectrum. It will be critical to identify and communicate what those levels may be in advance.
We had issues with people squeezing under the gates to our turf fields for soccer - concrete barriers are now in place
At WCU, we removed all rims from outdoor basketball goals.
At UNC, we had to lock up soccer/lacrosse goals, but that still hasn't deterred students/community members. the Chancellor finally had to address the issue with the campus community based on feedback from locals
at the end of the day, all we can do is post the "rules" of safe behavior and rely on the patrons to abide by them
Removed basketball rims on outdoor courts at USF
we can't police or enforce, there has to be some responsibility taken on by our patrons
Has anyone thought about bringing in a health professional to facilitate the temperature checks?
At UVA we locked courts as possible, took down nests, rims, taped off non controllable areas, posted closure signage to support UPD. Several complaints
We have removed basketball rims, tennis nets, sand volleyball nets, and locked up soccer goals at UWF
01:02:38Aracelis (Ary) Servedio
I've been told the administration is thinking of supplying balaclava face masks.
At WCU, we have a 7 mile mixed use trail system on campus. It is still open, but users are encouraged to follow CDC guidelines. It has been very busy every day as other local and national parks are still closed.
I don't think we can trust that patrons will self monitor. At Wake Forest, we are discussing liminting number of spaces to use so we can have staff to monitor
Excellent point @Walter Kolis! It would be a shame to put so many resources and energy into an unsustainable future rather than slow down and refocus our attention to what are true purpose is and how we best achieve those goals - it was probably needed before the pandemic and now is the perfect time for reassessment - are our efforts actually achieving the outcomes we are hoping for - healthy active students. All these efforts I am hearing about reopening concern me that it is about focusing on an elite few of participants. Maybe now is the perfect time to strategize for a sustainable future regardless of pandemic - and phasing all of that like Walter says is key with assessment happening throughout the phasing so we can be nimble and flexible and innovative.
Is anyone getting community push back about locking down outdoor recreation areas at public, taxpayer funded universities? Ultimately the patron/community member has to be responsible for themselves.
Well said Marc!! This is EXACTLY the point of why opening too early is the problem!
Jenny, equipment is something we have struggled with. Do we stop lending equipment out that is tough to clean? (ex: resistance bands, weight lifting belts, etc.) Thoughts?
Since we won't open for a few months we haven't answered that yet, but we are trying to figure out what classes, offerings, etc. that we can do without shared equipment in case there aren't ways to safely clean them.
At the University of North Dakota we are looking at purchasing fabric masks for all students, faculty, staff (2 each). Not sure who is funding, but this is something that is coming from high-level campus leadership. Our department is helping craft personal PPE health/wellness messages, mask care and use, etc.
That's helpful, Jenny. We are working on sending out a lot of virtual fitness (Live ZOOM classes, on-demand fitness classes we recorded, etc.) That is what we will have to stick with in the meantime, since lending out equipment is a tough subject to deal with.
I would say that that has been Manitoba's success, public health orders have been followed well by the public on whole (individuals) so that aids your ability to inform reopening procedures
CU Boulder is exploring 2-3 hour shut down mid day for deep cleaning, having only morning and evening hours. Anybody else?
Hey Nicole, same here at WCU. We are proposing opening 6am-8am, 11am, 2pm, 4pm-7pm and then deep cleaning between those times.
Nicole, we are considering the same at NSU. Opening from 6-10am, closed from 10-2pm for cleaning, and re-open from 2-8pm.
My worry is about staff sustainability, just as much as equipment/building accessibility. It has been a rollercoaster for all of us. As Associate Directors, we often supervise others, which I’ve found to be an added challenge during this time - the feeling of needing to be the leader and motivator, while the adrenaline of dealing with crisis is starting to wear off and the grief is real for everyone. Mustering up more motivation, focus, and continuing to drop new expectations for staff (change is hard for most!) is a really really big challenge!
Realistically looking at preventing possible exposure is almost impossible. While limiting exposure to people we know are infected is important, daily exposure to bacteria and viruses is how our immune systems stay healthy. Its definitely a delicate balance.
Especially as we may be forced to ask staff to possibly be relocated to completely different work roles.
@SarahShouvlin- that feeling is shared by many. I find taking a day "off" every other week has helped. I communicate that I'm available for urgent needs, but I spend the day taking care of myself.
Helps me feel fresh to tackle the next "emergency"
Nicole, U of Maryland is considering that kind of schedule as well, whether it be the whole building or staggered group fitness classes, short term shutdown of certain spaces through out the day to allow for thorough cleaning
Is anyone planning on doing temperature checks when we do eventually re-open? We are back and forth...
Sarah, I agree 100% with you. I have been participating in daily (m-f) 15 minute checkins with my staff at their request. These are unstructured, chat sessions to say hello, but they have occasionally been used as short staff meeting also.
@Tiffany, are y'all willing to take on that responsibility?
Thank you so much, very helpful! Happy May Day!
@Tiffany That is part of our state guidelines- temp checks for staff. Uncertain if we will extend to participants..
Is it your department's responsibility to do that?
Has anyone considered how seriously people will continue to take the precautions we are asking people to follow as they become desensitized?
What conversations are occurring regarding FT staff layoffs in your departments?
We are being told our staff could be furloughed for the summer due to our facility being closed
I am not sure if it is our responsibility to do temp checks as a department, but we are back and forth on whether we are doing our full due-diligence or not if we don't check their temps. (Would we be putting out other students at risk? We are still discussing...)
At MSU Denver, our current fiscal year ends June 30th and there will be no cuts until the following fiscal year. There could be furloughs, pay cuts, early retirement in 20/21.
01:28:07MC Martinez - Innosoft
Are any other departments on campus in talks of taking someone's temperature (aside from staff which seems common) before they are allowed in?
Thank you for this Sarah!
@Tiffany, that seems like one of those things that should be on the patron. I personally don't think it is a recreation center's responsibility to perform something like that
For the finance planning question. Not sure if these help but we are preplanning for fiscal year 20-21 with a must to/essential only lense. Includes an essential level for reserve and operational budgets with phased options to employ in later fiscal quarters, based on reopening and fiscal status. Also major focus on intentional utility savings efforts. Basically, must do's for base operations, infrastructure projects, or COVID support resources
01:29:07Teresa Clements-Chico State
@Sarah - Thanks for sharing!
Experiencing the same thing @Sarah!!!
MAJORLY appreciate your words, @Sarah!
01:31:34MC Martinez - Innosoft
Zoom calls with friends who are near OR far since we can't hang out IRL :)
HAngout app. DO IT.
01:32:29MC Martinez - Innosoft
Weekly "cheers" at work with everyone at work for 15-30 minutes at the end of the week! Play a little online game together, chat about non-covid/non-work stuff, anything fun you might have done recently, etc. Anything goes.
Good to see all these names and faces. Thanks Victoria and Nicole for facilitating!
Thanks for all the great input and info!
I set up a few NIRSA zoom meetups with people I would have seen at NIRSA and it has been fab! Everyone was so happy to talk to a different person
connecting with colleagues across the country has been helpful... we have an ongoing text convo… usually when one person is down the other can pick you up because they're at another institution not experiencing the same negatives you are in that moment :)
Great conversation, authenticity, vulnerability and facilitation! #NIRSAFamily
Thank you to all. Great to see you all.
Great to share everyone, take care and stay safe!
Thanks Everyone! Stay safe.
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