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if hosting an esports tournament for intramurals - how many t
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how many 'teams' do you let in, how long does it last
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Spencer Dalzell - The Central Washington University
THE Central Washington, welcome Spencer!
If anyone has any questions, feel free to drop them in the chat or send them directly to me :)
Seems like Geex and Mission Control are two main players for overall esports management, I'm curious what folks think about pros/cons of each.
Also, how does Discord fit into all of this, if at all? Seems like a chat platform, but I'm having mixed reviews of it.
I know discord is very popular among the hardcore gamers because it offers chat rooms to talk on a mic while playing games
00:43:58Max Miller, Swarthmore College
What recommendations do you have for no-cost games that participants can play on a console or a computer?
Mission control is very helpful with marketing but its about to cost a couple thousand dollars to run
not only is it a chat platform it allows talking and video like this platform. It is the main communication tool for gamers primarily due to being able to be a part of a culture
Used MC last year, they basically do it all for you after you pick a game/league to create. Their site is still in Beta form with many things not working yet
I can share some information on Discord I run a few discords for different esports programs
I've met with reps from both company's recently. That was very helpful.
Our IT is having issue getting security info from Mission Control like an End User License Agreement.
QUESTION: What games are not acceptable to offer in Campus Recreation? Is anyone offering Call of Duty, Valorant, Counter Strike, Battleground?
Cincinnati will not be running those unfortunately
Overwatch is the only FPS style game we will be running
Central does not run those either as of right now.
Ohio State does not allow most FPS games
I don't have any specific information on either system. Honestly, I would ask your students what they think is best. They both will cost you money. Battlefy would be a company you could look into for a free option.
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Quick Follow up Shana, which software did y'all end up going with after you dropped Geex?
We ended up just using Discord and IMLeagues, no outside platform at this time
We are doing the same as Shana at UCLA.
Also, our students are going to play these FPS games anyway. We would rather bring them together and create community rather then let them feel isolated.
The best way to get those games approved is have a community behind them that want to see it.
I have just created general LFGs on our Discord. That way if they choose to play those games we can at least get our messaging about healthy gaming in front of them. Nothing is specifically advocated for
00:53:17Max Miller, Swarthmore College
How are you updating your participation waiver now that programming is moved to virtual?
remember that not all of the games NEED to be competitive. party games like jackbox are great to offer as well.
we've sent surveys to our leagues/intramural database to get player #s
top 3 were NBA2k, NHL, FIFA
Working heavily with our Esports Clubs
Survey via IMLeagues message center
Polls in our discord, presenting to student orgs (mostly greek orgs), checking clubs on campus.
At Colorado School of Mines we are running games based on what games our Esports club plays on campus. They are the driving force for getting more students to participate.
what do those leagues look like through games like 2k? or games that are not FPS based?
If you have games that aren't competitive, Discord is a good way to filter people into communities for those games. You can have students click a button to be added to a group of people who are interested in Animal Crossing, Jackbox, etc, and then they will be surrounded by others who enjoy those games too.
it is usually based in pool play and then a final bracket
round robin that determines their seeding similar to how a normal IM league would be set up
I guess specifically for a game like 2k is it mycareer, myteam, do they get myplayers to team up as a squad of 5?
Usually you can run best of 1s or best of 3s depending on the length of the games
just want to know how best for us to start it here at CWU! thank you!
how long would a tournament last?
Spencer I would look at what bigger tournament are doing and try to follow that. TWU is running our first 2K tournament and we are leaning on other big tournament rulesets that are agreed upon by professionals to give our students
a week to two weeks depending on how many teams or participants you have
Reached out to my staff see who already games. I used that group as a test group for rules and what they thought games would work. We settled on 2K, Madden, FIFA, NHL, Rocket League 1v1 and league of leagues. LoL has not gone well most people did not complete their matches.
The difference between video games and im sports is that playing multiple games back to back is not a big deal compared to playing a double or triple header
for games that we received low numbers of responses we're offering matchmaking service
so being able to squeeze multiple matches or rounds in a day is completely possible
it just takes more organizing the more you want to get through in a day
I know I was having issues with Jackbox,
it is better to play close together
Any luck finding any free board game simulators?
awesome that is super helpful thank you!
Apex Legends is popular and free
Is there a limit to the amount of people that can play with jackbox games?
tabletop simulator is the best option
01:00:54Max Miller, Swarthmore College
Thomas — Yes, each game has a limit.
Usually 6 to 8 people
its not free though
Zach, not many that wouldn't raise flags in our legal department haha
I have yet to find a free simulator, but TableTop simulator is only $20.
it is max $19.99
here is a site for board games
tabletopia free is extremely closed off unless you pay for the subscription
it’s mainly for screen sharing these party games. once you go remote it’s assumed that lag will play a part in things
tabletop simulator is one time fee that goes on sale frequently
definitely recommended that you plug in directly to your internet for most stable connection as possible
My friends and I played www.skribbl.io (free multiplayer drawing & guessing game
We've played https://skribbl.io/ too!
I am interested to know if any varsity programs out there have scouted for players to replace graduating players on current teams?
What is a realistic expectation for monetization potential for recreational offerings? thoughts on price points on tournament entry? alternatives to cash prizing? - Josh (Carleton U)
Going to go through and still implement it if/when we come back
Josh it is difficult, it depends on what you plan to offer with the recreation aspect
Is anyone using Stadia?
if you have a space to use that is an option to charge money for as well as "swag" similar to what you would win for an IM tournament or league
Something like a "gaming café" model has always made sense to me. ~2 dollars an hour or so to play during open gaming hours would subsidize hardware replacement well
look to LAN centers for examples of a revenue model for a "café"
they are very willing to talk about what they do and how they organize themselves and tournaments/leagues
I can touch on it briefly if no one else has stuff
We offer a gaming café. It requires that the players own the game however, so that poses a challenge for new players.
Licensing is also a sticking point when it comes to running gaming tournaments, Blizzard brought that to my attention in the past
Licensing is terribly annoying to deal with...
does charging a fees for IM not break the licensing agreement of these games?
It depends on the games
Riot Games can be strict at times
for league of legends
has anyone else had above average forfeit rates for esports programming specifically?
Parker, that does seem to be a problem. We found a much higher forfeit rate in our free to play leagues. Charging a forfeit fee or something to penalize them would probably work pretty well.
First year running esports but yes, even allowing them weeks to play never able to play actually
Forfeiting in games is a much different culture than in sports
I have experienced the same thing at both eastern Illinois, and university of Illinois ^
Also seconding what Christian said
After our first week, we have had some teams not responding to schedule their opponents to schedule a time to play.
it is more prevalent for a variety of reasons, but it has the unfortunate mindset of "It is a waste of time to keep playing this complete loss"
We also allow all teams to join our bracket after the round robin stage, so if there are forfeits, then those teams are eligible for exclusion in the final tournament.
How easy is it to stream on twitch if you aren’t the one physically playing the game?
you need a very good internet connection
and or computer
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Pretty easy actually
Many games also have a convenient "spectator view" that actually makes it better to stream as someone whos not playing
01:22:59Trumaine Becoat Wade
Has anyone used the new facebook live streaming platform they have for esports? Or is anyone familar with this at all?
anyone streaming on youtub?
01:24:48Trumaine Becoat Wade
Facebook gaming is a new app they created to compete against twitch
as a fan of gaming Twitch is typically the most recognized for live streaming but it is worth looking into Mixer as that is the most direct competitor for Twitch right now for live streaming platforms
facebook and youtube gaming are still considered to be smaller markets for video game streaming
01:25:52Trumaine Becoat Wade
That's good to know, thanks for info!
WE have been doing the same @Sylvain
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