UCR- bi-weekly in-service, weekly meeting, weekly leadership program
Not required just options
Professional development and career readiness content for monthly in-services
We can pay our staff. We recently hosed Head Guard Manager training and a Cash handling training.
we’re hosting inservice but not mandatory.
Ole Miss staff $0, but still staying in contact -- they love kahoot
We are not requiring because we can't pay them, but we are having weekly meeting/virtual socials
we assigned ARC lg manual ch, video watches, and completing review quizzes
2x a week meetings
career advancement projects (resume, cover letter, practice interview..)
We can pay our students their weekly averages but cannot require remote work
I've tried to do optional check-ins with my staff but participation isn't great. We are not able to pay our students and therefore cant require anything of them
At this point our online training modules/meetings are optional. Weekly skills training + additional remote training options. No paid physical training at this time.
Yep, I don't have mic!! Im sorry
Has anyone else heard from their ARC rep after the big call they were on the other day?
But I can put it in the chat -
Stanford cannot pay any of our Aquatics staff at this time… We are hosting Covid - Connections for our staff completely optional and each day has a different theme… Examples pets & sunsets, creativity crew, quarantine cruise, fish out of water - lets get lean, stretch sesh etc. A lot of our staff are overwhelmed with online learning etc so we are just trying to keep it light and a fun place to just connect and destress.
We go through a few things for professionalism for both their off-campus guard jobs as well as non-aquatic future careers. Most content is coming from NACE competencies, but some are in-house content for Equity, diversity, and inclusion
Weekly staff dinner
00:41:28Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
doing a town hall meeting for our staff today
Trying to provide a weekly hangout
Sending some documents I am working on to head guards for them to review i.e doing a new fecal form and having them read them over to make sure it makes sense on the lifeguard side!
Jennifer, these are great ideas!
we started campus rec round tables with all of our student employees 1x a week
we droped PPM down to 1 for chlorine
help conserve bleach for other industries
WWU moved capital projects to now from august
Is anyone else worrying about hiring staff back when we reopen? We usually have difficulty getting guards over the summer (competing with outdoor pools) and I'm worried we won't have guards when we reopen.
Southern Miss - we went ahead and drained and shut down the system. We typically do once a year for cleaning so we went ahead and took care of this prior to the shelter in place order going into effect.
@Jamie yes I'm extremely worried! I have such a hard time getting summer guards and I only have four people who've confirmed they will be working for me for summer!
00:46:18Bob Gough W&M
@ W&M, we turned off the UV, put the CL set-point at 0.5 and the pH at 7.6. We placed signage at every door to warn people to stay out. All of the doors are locked and only Facility Mgt staff has access.
Staffing concerns... Rumor is Red Cross may be suspending classes(including on-line courses that have a hands-on aspect)
At the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee we drained and shutdown our pool
how do you all plan to do certs while
maintaining social distancing
00:46:49Garcia, Carlos Aaron
Texas A&M is doing the same as UGA
@ Jamie: Yes that is our main concern!! We are conducting Zoom interviews to those who have applied before COVID-19, and will conduct skills-screening once we can return
You cannot do certs with social distancing in my opinion
00:47:05Erin Coyne - William Paterson University
@Jamie we're in the same boat. I usually have trouble recruiting guards for summer. I'm very nervous about having enough guards if we do open at all this summer
UCSB 3 pools all running with lowered VFD and chemical settings. Boilers off or lowered set point. Have been able to move one major pipe repair up to happen later this month. Focusing on deck repairs as well.
UCR-We turned off heaters, chemicals are at minimum levels for operating, our pool tech was deemed essential and reports to work Monday-Friday
UofR Canada, we drained so our facilities maintenance staff can repair and replace valves and what not.
00:48:12Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
UT Austin is!
We are re-doing our deck during this time
Contractors are considered essential staff for us
Western Oregon- Staff is cleaning and making training videos for future staff to watch
PSU fixed out UV lights
00:49:09Bob Gough W&M
Many public schools in the Commonwealth of VA are under a spending freeze. Can't do any projects that are not already underway.
What is going on the ARC certs???
tile repair, valve replacement, cleaning where need be.
Spending freeze at Lafayette
Just got off a call with our rep! Yahoo!
FGCU is on a spending freeze as well!
LG extension to 120
And online only courses are available which hasn’t been available to site before at 50% of the cost but aren’t OSHA approved
Virtual skills check guidelines were given but manikins needed
I just talked to my rep - they are not suspending any classes but are adding additional guidance
They will continue to extend extensions and test out dates if there are still social distance guidelines
Yes the lecture parts of the class can be done, but can’t be recorded
How about Instructor courses?
What about Instructor courses Mark?
MArk are you asking if we can do the virtual classroom for instructor courses?
Erin - I have the western national manager on the phone - she said the cert date will be from the test out date
And if you’ve already applied for the 90 day extension and need the 120 you need to re-do it!
Depending on your agreement set up, you can invoice instead of pcard
For the LG extension, are there new date ranges for eligibility?
You can call and have them change your accounts/agreemnets to invoicing. They can send an e-mail invoice and someone can call with a pcard if needed.
00:55:22Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
To clarify - some of those classes are not blended learning
You need to teach them distance learning - aka via zoom
00:57:46Adrianna Del Amo
WOW thanks @Krista
In case you guys had not seen it: https://www.redcrosslearningcenter.org/s/american-red-cross-covid-19-guidance
No problem! Just sharing the info I got from my rep today! :) There’s hope for revenue!!
Agreed, like we discussed last week we can’t reopen while social distancing is in place
Where did we find the 120 day extension?
Thanks K! 🥰
What is the extension called??
You just enter it in as a course record
When i submitted the 90 day course record i just hyped 90 into the class search bar and it came up
And it’s now listed as 120 extension
should be the same for the 120
I just looked it up and isn’t there...
I got an email about the extension yesterday, and I think someone put the link above for the learning center guidance.
Red Cross says the 120 day information will go out today
We are currently hiring students for the fall...as we normally do
There will be an added bulletin about it soon and it may take a moment to be added to your account for what you’re able to select for your courses
I would check back tomorrow and then if it’s nt on there, contact your rep!
Us too Erin!
Same at Western Oregon
we are starting the process to hire for the fall
Same at Emory
UK hiring freeze too
Same at Ole Miss
University of Oregon
University of Oregon furlough all rec staff today
California State of Long Beach as well
hiring freeze at UNLV, potential partial furlough dependent on budget cuts (6 or 12 days for FY 21)
University of Cincinnati just cut there men's soccer team...I think these things may become more frequent
We are starting to document all of our touchpoints to the students to show that we are still engaging with our students and also helping with the retention for the fall
Are the schools that are furloughing staff in student affairs, auxillaries, or a combination of the two? What makes their funding models unique?
Bob UofO had to refund 3.4 Million in student fees
I’m the interim Aquatics Coordinator (currently oversee membership and marketing as my “real” job) but we were shot down by HR to review the AQ coordinator job description and have it posted until further notice.
A&M commerce is moving forward with our coordinator search.... Zoom interviews
At the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee we terminated all student employment positions
We are not going to get to hire some full time staff. Makes me sad due to the massive workload it puts on me. Happy because it puts massive workload on me which translates to job security (hopefully)
UGA- Hiring freeze, we aren’t paying any of our student fees currently so we are unable to make virtual trainings mandatory for our staff
trying to keep as many local students interested in the mean time with hopes that they’ll keep us in mind once we’re post COVID
*aren’t paying any of our students
Stanford on a hiring freeze…We were interviewing for potential hires for like camps etc. but that was recently asked to be put on hold as well now.
01:06:15Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
Something we will have to look at once we get a reopen date. Will need summer staff
might have to hire wage agreement (non-student) lifeguards for summer?
Xavier University does a virtual job fair for work study students only over the summer.
Luckily, I have enough returning staff to staff the first two/three weeks if I have to run a course and higher fresh guards if possible.
01:08:24Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
possible shuffling people we currently have to other jobs in the rec.
we are using D2L
I agree. I’m not sure who to talk to, but I think it’s important to keep in touch at least like this to work through struggles together in the future “new normal!”
We use handshake to apply then all of their paperwork is already online
If we cannot do on-boarding in person, how would we then be able to open?
we use handshake for same thing
Handshake is great!
URI uses Handshake and we all love it
we just switched to handshake and it’s been smooth.
UCSB is transitioning from on Campus Spring Open House (which includes job fair targeted to incoming Frosh) to a Virtual Open house 4/22. combo of live Zoom & recorded info videos from specific areas, organizations and departments. Also Handshake.
Is anyone struggling with staff engagement? We are able to pay students but cannot require remote work so I am concerned about losing staff engagement.
Is anybody planning a BL class with pending hires? Test out as soon as we reopen?
01:13:26Bob Gough W&M
I'm not worried about staff engagement. They know we are here and available. They will reach out when they need something. They have a lot to process and I'm not trying to have a LG job haunt them from miles away. We offer Zoom hangouts and they are welcome to drop-in if they want to do so.
same here for LGI and WSI
we make staff may the cert fees ($35) for instructor certs
They have to work an hour of 15 hours per week for our agreement at UC.
01:14:39Bob Gough W&M
We cover the costs for LG certification. We have the CPR instructors sign an agreement to teach X classes in exchange for X$ in support of the class registration.
Adam- yes, I have a few that want to be engaged but I'm struggling to get most of them to even respond to messages. They are being paid but only two are actually doing remote work. I'm trying to combat this by offering optional virtual hangout times but also once a month doing a required in-service for everyone who is planning on returning. When they actually get on zoom they have fun, but I think a lot of them are struggling with motivation at the moment. Many that I've talked to are struggling with school.
UCSB offers pay for cert or scholarship option with work commitment both for LG & WSI. Scholarships most popular for summer jobs.
recerts are paid for and students get paid to attend the re-certification but they have to pay for their own certifications initially.
01:16:12Bob Gough W&M
IT certs would be great if ARC would host one every now and then :) They won't do one in Virginia!
Rebecca-Only a few of my staff seem to respond to emails and I don’t want to hound them with messages during this time. I also have offered zoom availability but so far no one has taken me up on it.
01:16:27Adrianna Del Amo
What was involved with your LG tryout?
How did you outline that Lifeguard tryout?
I teach LGI & CPRI as an academic course - thus they do not have to pay and get 3 credits. I get to choose the students in the course.
we have the same issues in Vegas as you are having in tx
Erin, we even lose staff to City of Austin from San Marcos due to their high payrates.
Erin, we have that same challenge at Cal State San Bernardino
We have an 18 ft dive well so they have to at least prove they can get a brick off the bottom to be hired. Everything else we can teach.
We interview, which includes a skills test. Based on fit and ability to work together in their skills test we make an offer contingent on a successful completion of a lifeguard review course
Same at UGA Jennifer
Our LG tryout for currently certified LG’s = 400 yd timed swim (under 7min), swim 20yd + descend to 8 ft + retrieve 10lb brick + tread w/ brick), demonstrate 2 rescue scenarios w/out extrication (i.e active, panicky victim and spinal face-down victim). Must pass swim & brick if they don’t have LG cert. 2nd step is interview.
01:20:59Bob Gough W&M
We do the bulk of our hiring in the fall. The candidate pool is better in the fall when our students are coming back to campus after having worked all summer. I "over hire" in the fall in anticipation of losing a few in the spring to student teaching, study abroad, etc. We pay a little more to be a LG than we do to work at the front desk.
At the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee we have had to increase our LG pay rates over the summer drastically to compete with outdoor pools. (8.50/hr to 11/hr)
Trying to get that off the ground here at Boise State as well, but also with a WSI class too
Does anyone have success recruiting or hiring in-coming freshman (engage them prior to them arriving to campus) or partner with pre-fall programs to engage students for jobs?
01:22:40Bob Gough W&M
@W&M LG tryout is 500 yard continuous swim, (200 free, 200 breast, 100 choice) active and passive rescue, inline stabilization (face up, face down), 5 min tread, & brick retrieval.
Drake, we have had some luck. Usually it is through students or parents reaching out to us. when they are in town for orientations in the spring
@drake belt, we are invited to a resource fair during orientation to be available for questions and we push the incoming students to the website for applying or give out business cards
Drake-most of our students come from the surrounding community so I'm able to hire a lot of them the summer before and sometimes I get out of state students who come in and interview while they are in town for orientation.
At West Virginia University we budget for a summer lifeguard rate. School yr $8.75 - 9.75 and summer rate $9.75 - 11.25
we can only hire students who are currently enrolled in 6 credits
Have great day everyone!
Limiting total # of hours they can be assigned 6-8hrs has been helpful
get in touch with your orientation team. They may be able to give you a space to advertise your jobs
I bring them on as subs during their first term regardless of year to give priority to veteran staff and fill other shifts as needed
01:25:26Autumn Alyssa Cleverley
we brought in two supervisors that are incoming freshman because they joined our staff as high schoolers!
How does everyone weigh the performance of a person at their skills tests with hiring someone who is unprepared for the job? If they know they have to demonstrate skills as part of the interview and then do poorly or clearly haven't prepared, doesn't that indicate how they'll act as an employee?
XU can post in our orientation app, but we tend not to hire first year students as they would miss training
Thanks for the great conversation everyone!
We normally partner with orientation and capture them before they come, but orientation has been moved all online for us at this point.
we table at orientation. i also recruit people i work with over summer since I work with a pool company over the summer in my hometown. the pool company i work for has a few different branches all over NC so i recruit from there. then those help me continue recruiting
We have pretty good results hiring and mentoring freshman but they all leave campus for summer (when we really need student staff). Typically plan to hire a HS or other local LG for summer to “replace” a frosh hire (the non-UCSB students are limited to 3 month employment).
Best piece of advice someone told me during this time: Focus on the things you can control. Do not stress over the things you can't control.
Thanks for hosting Richelle!
Our best freshman are people that have worked for us when they were in high school
Thank you for hosting!
Would love to have these continue on a monthly basis after things calm down!
and Yes AOAP is great
Thanks Richelle!! Yes I would love these monthly after everything calms down!
Richelle, you have been great at facilitating these and bringing the group together. Thank you for all you do.
AOAP is great!!!
I went for the first time this year and it was awesome!
I would love to continue once a month-ish as well! 🙌🏻
01:29:16Adrianna Del Amo
Thank you Richelle!!
In Reno next year (I hope)
Would love for this to continue post COVID-19!!
Would love to continue these possibly once a month as well!
01:30:17Adrianna Del Amo
Count me in!
01:30:19Bob Gough W&M
what was that next webinar?
Yes to continuation. AOAP is great Aquatic Specific resource but much more City oriented.
01:30:39Adrianna Del Amo
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